Marilyn Manson and Evan Rachel Wood: Um, Why?
What is up with the creepy relationship between Marilyn Manson and 19-year-old starlet Evan Rachel Wood? It's not just the age difference that's bizarro, but the disturbing facts that he is (a) coming off a deep depression, (b) coming out of a marriage, and (c) she is starting to develop a freakish resemblance to his ex-wife, Dita von Teese. I'd like to think that this analysis of the liplinered lovebirds' horoscopes would give Marilyn, with his interest in the occult, food for thought. (Foreword: In astrologically analyzing their relationship, I am indebted both to Tabitha D., for kindly providing record of Evan's birth time, and to the anonymous commenter who suggested the topic. It takes an Interweb, people.)
Right off the bat, Marilyn obviously has a thing for Virgo women (ex-fiancee Rose McGowan was born September 5, 1973; he once dated Fiona Apple, born September 12, 1977). Earth signs Capricorn (Marilyn's Sun sign) and Virgo are certainly compatible, and the near-exact trine aspect between Marilyn's and Evan's Suns enhances their earthy bond. There is definitely an ease between them. But the solar connection hardly suffices to explain their self-proclaimed "soulmate" connection. So what does Marilyn see in Evan, and (perhaps the greater mystery) vice versa?
Marilyn's Chiron is at 29 Pisces, the final degree of the zodiac, trine Neptune and opposite Pluto--which perhaps explains his fetishization of pain, suffering and self-mutilation. See Marilyn Manson 's chart (Astrotheme) Evan's Chiron, at 28 Gemini, squares Manson's, stimulating this tendency toward self-wounding. See Evan Rachel Wood's chart (Exclusive to CelebAstroBlogy) Marilyn has called Evan "my double, my twin" {Source}, and this aspect suggests that she holds up a mirror to the darkness within him. With Gemini on her 7th house cusp, this idea of being a "twin" to her partner must be very appealing to Evan.
ERW's horoscope definitely appears to be that of someone who is open to being molded. With her Sun, Moon, and all four angles in mutable signs, she is receptive and tends to take her cues from others rather than initiating her own course of action. Evan is a Full Moon baby with an almost exact Sun-Moon opposition that, again almost exactly, forms a T-square with Saturn in Sagittarius in the 1st house of identity and appearance. Patriarchal Saturn certainly describes a father figure/authority figure defining not only her outward appearance (1st house) but her core identity (Sun/Moon).
Of all her mutable planets, Evan's Pisces Moon in particular predisposes her to codependency and a tendency to soak up others' emotions like a sponge. Marilyn has Venus in Pisces; plus, his Leo Moon is in the 12th house, natural home of Pisces, also tends him toward a codependent emotional situation, but there is an element of Leo narcissism in his wallowing, as distinct from Evan's self-sacrificing emotional instincts.
Meanwhile, ERW's Mercury at 0 Libra forms an out-of-sign opposition to Manson's Chiron, suggesting that by becoming his partner (Libra) she has helped him become aware (opposition) of, and able to articulate (Mercury), his pain (Chiron). Perhaps for most couples this would not be a plus, but I'm guessing that "misery loves company" is a recurring romantic motif for these two.
Further, Evan's Mercury in Libra falls on Marilyn's Jupiter-Uranus conjunction, again making her a sort of mouthpiece or outlet of expression -- in this case, for his wild, envelope-pushing unconventional behavior and the sense of outrageousness that comes with the Jupiter-Uranus connection.
Evan's Pluto at 7 Scorpio is on Manson's Mars at 3 Scorpio, fostering a strong sexual chemistry characterized by an intense power dynamic. There is a sense that he is empowered by her, drawing on her energy as fuel. Marilyn's Saturn in Aries forms an almost exact inconjunct to Evan Rachel's Venus in Virgo, which suggests that he expects her to conform to certain standards in the relationship, even adjusting the way she relates to a partner to live up to his self-centered expectations. (It's hard to miss the way ERW has morphed into a wannabe of Dita von Teese, Marilyn's ex.) Another inconjunct aspect is found between Evan's Mercury in Libra and Marilyn's Venus in Pisces, suggesting she needs to adjust the way she expresses herself to fit his image of what a relationship should be.
With her Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars, and Saturn in mutable signs, as well as her "I don't know, what do you want to do?" Mercury in Libra, Evan Rachel is definitely the kind of person who becomes enmeshed with her partner, caring for him perhaps to the point of losing sight of her own needs. Her Pisces Moon and Virgo Venus may get validation from being seen as savior, helpmeet and soulmate -- but what about nurturing, and expressing, herself?
Meanwhile, Manson's ex Dita is much more self-directed and definitely her own woman. Her Sun-Pluto conjunction in Libra describes not only her identification with erotic beauty but her need to call the shots in relationships. See Dita von Teese's chart (Astrotheme, no birth time) Her Venus in Leo reinforces the idea that she is passionate, commanding, and knows what she wants in relationships. And the Gemini Moon allows Dita to verbalize -- and move on from -- her emotions, rather than wallowing in them in the way her ex has made a career out of. While her Venus may have vibed with Manson's Leo Moon, ultimately Dita's strong personality may have been too much for him. For better or worse, a woman (or rather, a girl-not-yet-a-woman) whom he can mold into a specific image was ultimately more desirable to Marilyn than a mature woman who has crafted her own desirable persona.
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4 Comments
WOW.....Very indepth.You left no stone unturned and it was all relevent.(Loved the title as well.It made me giggle ;)). Hopefully if/when the relationship becomes completely one-sided ERW will be able to face it (Pisces Moon) and leave. ~Andie
Found this quote from ERW's imdb.com profile:
"I look back on some of the stuff I wore and I'm so embarrassed. I definitely blame it on this clique of girls I was friends with back then. I've been talked into wearing stuff that I didn't want to wear. Now, I like very simple, elegant things, by 'Oscar de la Renta' or Armani".
That was her pre-Manson...you think she would have learned her lesson! ~Andie
Thanks for that analysis! I was the "anonymous person" who suggested the topic. You went above and beyond what I expected. I was not surprised by most of it though- I got the impression that marilyn wants a naive girl he can mold rather than a woman who knows what she wants(Dita). In an interview in regards to Dita he said something to the affect of being frustrated by her for wanting him to grow up and be more adult. I have a feeling he will always be searching for the next 19 year old he can mold. Thanks again!-- natalie
What gurl! a year ago she was talking about clothes and Armani and now she's imitating Dita?
pathetic...
and this relationship...she thinks she's "cool" or somethin? fuck! she's only a lil preppy girl who want some fame and popularity...
Mr.Manson!! wake up & come back with Dita, or find a real woman not this "imitation" !!!
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